From Joe Jackson to Frank Thomas, A Look at the Chicago White Sox, Both Past and Present
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Earlier this past weekend, I talked about how the guys at Baseball Analyst, along with bloggers Aaron Gleeman and Brian Borawski, basically gave the White Sox no chance of competing for the division. Two of them picked the Sox to finish third, and two picked them to finish fourth.
Well, I got my copy of Baseball Prospectus 2005 today and immediately turned to the White Sox section. After a nice narrative of the failures over the last three years, it then goes into the moves Kenny Williams and Ozzie Guillen made during the offseason, notably the trade sending Carlos Lee for Scott Podsednick. I really did a double take when I read the final sentence of the team narrative:
“The new master plan might be a bold stroke, but it’s the sort of gamble that will more likely have the Sox keeping the Royals company in the basement than finally getting them back to the top of the standings.”
Ouch.
Needless to say, the guys at Baseball Prospectus have never been a fan for small ball. For that matter, neither have I. Based on PECOTA, here’s the VORP of our two biggest losses, along with the VORP of the two guys who will be replacing them.
Magglio Ordonez 30.5
Carlos Lee 25.7
Scott Podsednick 17.7
Jermaine Dye 11.2
The difference between those number is around 35. That equates to a loss of about three wins, and that’s not good when you’ve been battling the .500 the last few years. And the Ordonez number is based on 396 at bats. If he get back up into the 500s, he could easily end up with a VORP of 50, meaning a net loss of five wins.
Just a few other quick notes on the White Sox in the book:
CF prospect Brian Anderson has a projected VORP of 15.5. That’s only a couple of runs less then Podsednick, making the trade look even more fruitless.
Frank Thomas is projected to land at 274 at bats, but his main numbers, including a .399 OBP, are quite good.
Freddy Garcia is expected to be right where he’s been the last few years. His projected 30.5 VORP is right in line with what he’s accomplished the last few seasons.
If you’ve never bought the Baseball Prospectus book, I’d highly recommend. The writing is excellent, with a mix of humor, stats, and as always, a ton of baseball. For the $12 and change you pay, you get a great resource and a ton of information.
SABR members might be aware of this, but a lot of other people might not. The Baseball Biography Project is a committee of SABR dedicated to compiling biographies on every major league player. They have a long way to go, but the work is exceptional. Two of the players I discussed in yesterdays Lookback have biographies completed, so if you’re interested in this genre, I highly recommend you check these out:
Record – 83-53, Finished First Place in the American League
Pythagorean Record – 84-52
Starters (Note – I couldn’t find a set lineup, so I’m listing the players who got the most time at their respective positions)
Hitters (BA/OBP/SLG)
C – Billy Sullivan (.245/.271/.351)
1b – Frank Isbell (.257/.311/.329)
2b – Sam Mertes (.277/.347/.396)
3b – Fred Hartmen (.309/.355/.431)
SS – Frank Shugart (.251/.301/.345)
LF – Herm McFarland (.275/.384/.383)
CF – Dummy Hoy (.294/.407/.400)
RF – Fielder Jones (.311/.412/.365)
Team Leaders
Homeruns – Sam Mertes (5)
Batting Average – Fielder Jones (.311)
OPS – Dummy Hoy (.807)
Best Fielder – Frank Isbell (17 Fielding Runs Above Average)
Pitchers (IP/W/ERA)
SP – Roy Patterson (312.3/20/3.37)
SP – Clark Griffith (266.7/24/2.67)
SP – Jack Katoll (208/11/2.81)
SP – Nixey Callahan (215.3/15/2.42)
RP – Zaz Harvey (92/3/3.62)
Team Leaders
Wins – Clark Griffith (24)
ERA – Nixey Callahan (2.42)
Strikeouts – Roy Patterson (127)
Synopsis
The 1901 Chicago White Sox won the American League Pennant their first year of existance. Led by the bats of Fielder Jones and Dummy Hoy, the team led the league in runs scored (809) and stolen bases (280), and they were second in OBP (.350) Hoy and Jones were first and second in walks and were second and third in the league in Times on Base.
The pitching staff, led by Roy Patterson and Clark Griffith, posted the lowest ERA (2.98) in the league. and were second in strikeouts (394, two short of Boston). Griffith led the league in Won/Lost % (.774) and shutouts (5) and also managed the team. While their first place finish wasn’t recognized as a championship, they wouldn’t have to wait long before being crowned the World Series winner.
Over the rest of the offseason, and more sporadically throughout the regular season, I’m going to take a look at White Sox season pasts. I’m not going to go into to much detail, but I’m hoping this will be a good way for both you and I to learn about White Sox history. I’m hoping to have the first one up (1901) either today or tomorrow, so please be sure to check back.
Baseball Analysts ran a four person chat on the AL Central. The two hosts of the site took part, along with Twins fan Aaron Gleeman and Tigers fan Brian Borawski. Neither of the four picked the White Sox to finish better then fourth, and Brian and Rich Lederer even picked the Tigers to finish ahead of them.
Personally, with the White Sox rotation, I think they’ll be right in the hunt until the end like they have the last few years. If The Big Hurt can stay healthy, that would be a huge bonus, but they pretty much hung with the Twins last year without him.
Scout.com has a story on the White Sox projected lineup for 2005. Here’s what is looks like, with the players PECOTA projections in parentheses:
1) Scott Podsednick CF (.278/.342/.416 with a VORP of 17.7 in 564 at bats)
Podsednick is your prototypical leadoff man. If he hits his PECOTA, he should be a solid table setter for the middle of the lineup.
2) Aaron Rowand LF (.290/.341/.482 with a VORP of 23.9 in 387 at bats)
Similar to Podsednick’s line, but with a little more punch, 60 extra base hits shouldn’t be out of the question.
3) Frank Thomas DH (.274/.399/.529 with a VORP of 30.3 in 274 at bats)
Always the key to the lineup, if the Big Hurt can play for most of the season, the White Sox will be in the hunt.
4) Paul Konerko 1b (.276/.353/.494 with a VORP of 25.9 in 473 at bats)
Konerko’s had a hard time putting together back to back solid seasons. This year he’s due for his off year.
5) Jermaine Dye RF (.256/.332/.449 with a VORP of 11.2 in 384 at bats)
This is where things get dicey. I thought they would have been much better off sticking with Ordonez. Instead we get the oft injured Dye, and at the fifth spot no less.
6) A.J. Pierzynski C (.277/.327/.430 with a VORP of 16.3 in 403 at bats)
The catcher who’s pitchers didn’t like throwing to in San Fran comes back to the AL Central. Hopefully he’ll hit his old club when the Twins come to town.
7) Juan Uribe SS (.269/.316/.444 with a VORP of 18.5 in 459 at bats)
If only Juan could repeat what he did last year. I’d like to see his strikeouts come down, but I’m not very hopeful.
Joe Crede 3b (.266/.321/.459 with a VORP of 11.0 in 432 at bats)
Is this year Mr. Potential finally comes through? My thoughts are yes. Expect Crede to finish somwhere around .280 and close to 30 homers. Other then Frank Thomas, Joe Crede is my favorite player.
9) Tadahito Iguchi (No Information)
I don’t know a lot about this guy other then what Aaron Gleeman over at Hardball Times wrote up.
With Carlos Lee’s departure, and Frank Thomas’ injuries, it could be a rough year. While I think Crede will finally break through, I also think Rowand will take a step back.
This is my first post. I’m a huge Chicago White Sox fan, and I plan on covering the Sox, both past and present. I love the historical aspects of baseball, so expect to see quite a few “look backs.” But to start, I’ll take a look at what’s happening over in Arizona.
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